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    Post  Bad John June 24th 2013, 8:16 pm

    ...They're not GREAT.

    Almost everyone under 25 who applied there gets hired. They cast a very wide net, so you're probably good. Just tell them you're a hard worker. Maybe sprinkle in something about how a family member pushes you to succeed, and you got the job.

    When I worked there, you got paid $7 per purchase. You only made decent money if you managed to sell Homemaker or Galley sets, which is ADMITTEDLY damn good money, but when you factor in the amount of gas I spent driving to people's houses, then I didn't yield the awesome results they advertised.

    They constantly bugged me about going to some sort of "massive sales thing." My manager said I had "potential." I laughed in his face, and he sent me an angry text about taking my job seriously. Fuuuuuck him.

    Eventually, I just stopped showing up, and they got the message that I quit. You make your own hours, and you have to compile YOUR OWN LIST OF CLIENTS. They don't make appointments for you. The reason they cast such a wide net is the relatively unlikelihood of you making a sale, and the fact that everything you do is at YOUR expense, and you put them in contact with people YOU know. It's a pain in your ass, and it's no skin of their nose.

    All and all, you could to a lot better than this, but it's better than nothin'.
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    Post  Manny June 24th 2013, 8:23 pm

    I knew it sounded fishy, "too good to be true" kinda deal.

    Apparently they have a base pay of $14.25, not sure where that factors in?

    But that whole making your own list of clients does sound like bullshit. Whatever, at least I know what to ask the guy when I get there. 

    The person at the office said that there wasn't any door to door or telemarketing. Which makes me wonder if they are a) lying or b) taking you/forcing you to go to events all the time...

    Of course, I'm still looking for other things.
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    Post  Bad John June 24th 2013, 8:28 pm

    Word of advice, no matter WHAT they tell you, keep at least 75% of your list of clients to yourself. They can and will straight up GIVE your clients to other people if they want.

    Give them a list of people who probably won't buy, and get to them last. Keep your most wealthy, reliable, likeable clients in a personal list that you show NOBODY.

    And they raised the base pay? Rad. Looks like those thick galoots are doing SOMETHING right. Lol.
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    Post  Manny June 24th 2013, 8:35 pm

    That's what the lady told me when I called, and their website says that the base pay isn't affected whether you sell something or not. So, apparently, even if I sell ZERO knives I get 14.25?

    Oh well, it's not like I'm working there now. I'm still hunting around for different jobs.

    Paying for gas sounds like a pain in the ass though.
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    Post  Bad John June 24th 2013, 8:36 pm

    Oh, boy it is. Sad
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    Post  Manny June 24th 2013, 8:37 pm

    I drive a Dodge Caravan as well...FUCK!

    John, when you worked there...was there such thing as a "base pay"?
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    Post  Bad John June 24th 2013, 9:04 pm

    Yes, there was Base Pay.

    You get paid that amount for each meeting you set up. However, for me, it was under ten dollars a head.

    Unless you set up several meetings per day, that ain't gonna get you far.

    You make the real money by selling HomeMaker and Galley sets.

    Even if I got them to buy scissors, or a fishing knife, unless I sold a HomeMaker or a Galley set, I was boned and only made Base Pay.
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    Post  Manny June 24th 2013, 9:06 pm

    Yeah... I think I'll just go work at a restaurant or something...

    I don't feel like going from meeting to meeting for a few hours straight per day.
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    Post  Doctor Jensen June 25th 2013, 11:08 pm

    Yeah, don't do cutco. My friend just quit there after like five days. He says it's bs. Good knives (I have some) but bs nonetheless. 

    Anyways, I have a dream fellas, and that dream is to become one of the best of the best at Starcraft 2. I've been playing a ton lately (thus the inactivity) and have decided that I would absolutely love to become a Grandmaster in that game, then I would go and train with the Koreans and play in tournaments. It's likely to fail, but it's my dream nonetheless. If I work hard enough, I think I can do it. any input on that? And yes, I am willing to put in hours upon hours of training to become a great Starcraft player.
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    Post  Shad0wChas3r June 25th 2013, 11:11 pm

    As long as you keep your health and don't become comic book guy from the simpsons, I say follow your dream.

    Plus on the brighter side, if you beat some dude over there in Korea, you can have his daughter's hand in marriage!

    All mildly offensive jokes aside, if it's something you enjoy, I say go for it Smile
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    Post  Manny June 25th 2013, 11:46 pm

    So I went to the stupid Cutco thing.

    Apparently I was a good applicant, but the chick next to me (who didn't say a word) also got the job. Being a sales rep requires you to talk to people...

    Anyways like John said they seem to hire anyone young, because you only get $17 per appointment and you have make your own list of clients... Like John also mentioned.

    I said I'd go to training, but I'll make up some BS excuse to not go.


    Jensen... Can you play games while on your mission. Will Starcraft III come out any time soon?
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    Post  Bad John June 26th 2013, 12:19 am

    Manny wrote:So I went to the stupid Cutco thing.

    Apparently I was a good applicant, but the chick next to me (who didn't say a word) also got the job. Being a sales rep requires you to talk to people...

    Anyways like John said they seem to hire anyone young, because you only get $17 per appointment and you have make your own list of clients... Like John also mentioned.

    I said I'd go to training, but I'll make up some BS excuse to not go.


    Jensen... Can you play games while on your mission. Will Starcraft III come out any time soon?
    You're not beholden to them. Just tell 'em, "Yeah, this isn't a very promising future, so I'm not doing this. Later bitches."

    Knowing what I know now, that's what I'd do.
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    Post  Bad John June 26th 2013, 4:04 pm

    I have a theory for Life and Death's respective powers.

    Death can see billions of different, possible futures with little effort, each one based on the death of a specific human being. He can therefore alter those events by preserving or killing those people.

    Life, on the other hand, can see the one, truest, most likely future, based on current events and intentions. It takes a large amount of effort and time. She can read the specific future of a human being, and preserve the "soul" of a person who has recently died, memorizing and channeling their speech patterns, personality, and memories, essentially storing them within herself.

    Both are immortal, but Death's regeneration is much faster than Life's.
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    Post  Manny June 26th 2013, 5:28 pm

    Bad John wrote:I have a theory for Life and Death's respective powers.

    Death can see billions of different, possible futures with little effort, each one based on the death of a specific human being. He can therefore alter those events by preserving or killing those people.

    Life, on the other hand, can see the one, truest, most likely future, based on current events and intentions. It takes a large amount of effort and time. She can read the specific future of a human being, and preserve the "soul" of a person who has recently died, memorizing and channeling their speech patterns, personality, and memories, essentially storing them within herself.

    Both are immortal, but Death's regeneration is much faster than Life's.
    But according to the multiple universes theory... All timelines are equally valid and equally real. There is no "truest" or "prime" timeline.

    And seeing the most likely outcome isn't exactly hard. If I have 10 000 Elites being fielded against 100 Marines... The Elites are going to win.
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    Post  Bad John June 26th 2013, 5:51 pm

    True. But while everybody else was panicking, Life would be the only person aware of one man who was flying a small shuttle in with a slipspace warhead.

    Some things come out of left field, and with time and effort, she could "track" her specific timeline. Even with multiple different timelines, SHE is still in HERS.

    The fact that it takes time and effort to see the future, and that it's limited to the amount of effort she puts in and her mental capacity, would make sense of her uncertainty and fear in life or death situations.

    Death can see ALL timelines, and can manipulate his particular timeline in order to make the timeline move in his favor.

    Life can see HER CURRENT timeline, relative to her. Once she's seen it, in a way, it's already happened, unless someone were knowledgeable about her prognostication and changed the future on her request, or Death were to change it himself.

    Death's in a spiderweb that catches a bunch of knowledge, but cannot go straight forward. Life's is a straight line, that cannot take into account variables that would cause different timelines, so if she wanted to change the future, she'd be flying totally blind, and creating a new timeline that could be better or worse.

    Just a suggestion/theory.
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    Post  Manny June 26th 2013, 5:59 pm

    Ah ok. I was under the impression you mean "truest" as in absolute, not relative.
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    Post  Bad John June 26th 2013, 6:02 pm

    It's all relative, and capable of change.

    I'm just glad nobody time-travels in our continuity.

    Yet...
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    Post  Manny June 26th 2013, 6:20 pm

    That would create so many AU stories...
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    Post  Doctor Jensen June 26th 2013, 10:06 pm

    Manny wrote:Jensen... Can you play games while on your mission. Will Starcraft III come out any time soon?
    No, I cannot. It's too distracting. Starcraft III will come out a good time after the next expansion comes out for Starcraft II. That one should come out a few months before I get home or the year after I get home.

    I agree, Shadow. Thanks for the support. Lol I won't become comic book guy.
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    Post  Manny June 28th 2013, 1:25 pm

    Doctor Jensen wrote:
    Manny wrote:Jensen... Can you play games while on your mission. Will Starcraft III come out any time soon?
    No, I cannot. It's too distracting. Starcraft III will come out a good time after the next expansion comes out for Starcraft II. That one should come out a few months before I get home or the year after I get home.

    I agree, Shadow. Thanks for the support. Lol I won't become comic book guy.
    Wait, the expansion or the new Starcraft will come out the year before/after you get home?
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    Post  Doctor Jensen June 28th 2013, 2:46 pm

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    Manny wrote:Jensen... Can you play games while on your mission. Will Starcraft III come out any time soon?
    No, I cannot. It's too distracting. Starcraft III will come out a good time after the next expansion comes out for Starcraft II. That one should come out a few months before I get home or the year after I get home.

    I agree, Shadow. Thanks for the support. Lol I won't become comic book guy.
    Wait, the expansion or the new Starcraft will come out the year before/after you get home?
    Probably the same year. Or the year after, yeah.
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    Post  Shad0wChas3r June 28th 2013, 11:17 pm

    Just gonna put this out there, I'm gonna be out of town on a camping excursion until the 6th of July.

    In advance, I wish all my fellow Americans a happy Independence day! Never forget the REAL soldiers that sacrificed everything, just so we could sit here and type up our fictional war stories.

    Until that time, best of luck to all of you, and I'll see you then!
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    Post  Bad John June 28th 2013, 11:36 pm

    We should bring back Strange Planet.
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    Post  Manny June 30th 2013, 9:12 pm

    Oh hai.

    Just checking in. I see my Collab has been revived Smile

    Unfortunately my activity has dropped this week because my family has been travelling back and forth to Toronto each day due to my grandpa's medical condition.
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    Post  Bad John July 1st 2013, 12:50 am

    Whenever I drink, it always goes like this:

    1. Optimism
    2. Hilarity
    3. Slight anger
    4. Total despair
    5. Sickness
    6. Coma

    Sometimes I manage to skip the despair part, usually when I'm at a social event, but it usually pops up its ugly head. :(

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